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set the channel description: Discussion for those residing in the Pacific Northwest area. Potential meetups, local organizations, conservation groups, regional funding opportunities and so on!

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set the channel description: Discussion for those residing in the Pacific Northwest area. Potential meetups, local trap deployment efforts, regional funding opportunities and so on!

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Nick Giampietro (giampiet@pdx.edu)
2023-01-23 20:01:21

@Michael Bunsen thanks for adding me!

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Michael Bunsen (notbot@gmail.com)
2023-01-23 20:02:26

Glad you are here @Nick Giampietro! I am a PSU alum myself.

๐Ÿคฉ Nick Giampietro
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Michael Bunsen (notbot@gmail.com)
2023-01-23 20:47:07

Hi all! I have assembled you here with the secret hopes of doing more in-person work and pleasure related to this field! (AI, ML & software development applied to ecology and conservation).

โค๏ธ Atul Ingle, Nick Giampietro
Michael Bunsen (notbot@gmail.com)
2023-01-23 20:53:15

I have been working remotely for some time in automated monitoring and doing DevOps for several projects related to butterflies and moths, for the Insectarium in Montreal and the Mila Research Institute.

Nick Giampietro (giampiet@pdx.edu)
2023-01-24 01:55:13

That sounds like a lot of fun! I'd love to hear more about it.

Just sharing my own quick introduction too:

I've got a gig at Adobe doing some Webassembly stuff related to Lightroom and Photoshop. Neat, but not exactly conservation ๐Ÿ˜… At PSU, I'm wrapping up my MS coursework, and zeroing in on a thesis topic under the guidance of Atul. I'm deeply interested in UAVsSS (drone-based seed sowing), especially for things like forest-fire reseeding.

Right now I'm working with someone at the US Forestry Service, who used Seattle's DroneSeed to attempt reforesting 50 acres after the 2020 Riverside fire (reseeding didn't go well), to better understand why the NEPA Environmental Assessment (EA) process takes so long (which is why reseeding didn't go well; scattering seeds after 18 months of flora has re-grown doesn't take as well as planting saplings, even if it's cheaper). My goal is to see how we can help expedite the EA process using technology, since it's currently an incredibly manual task.

Michael Bunsen (notbot@gmail.com)
2023-01-26 17:11:52

Really interesting stuff! Thanks for sharing. My dad used to do a lot of that manual re-planting of saplings ๐Ÿ™‚

That makes sense that the competition comes in quickly. Also makes sense that the NEPA assessment might take a while! There's a chance that the flora may be the better replacement for a few generations, as opposed to trees.

Speaking of, I wonder if DroneSeed could be used for meadow restoration!

Michael Bunsen (notbot@gmail.com)
2023-01-23 20:56:49

At a minimum I would love to have a drink or tea with anyone in the Portland area. However I am also interested in what local projects are going on in regards to wildlife monitoring and computational ecology. For example, I know our local non-profit Cascadia Wild maintains camera traps on Mt. Hood and manually reviews all images. Showing them how to use MegaDetector (and perhaps the new (EcoAssist GUI) seems like it would be an easy win.

Nick Giampietro (giampiet@pdx.edu)
2023-01-24 01:58:21

I'll join whatever meet-n-greet winds up happening, but would also love to grab tea sometime, since you mentioned it. There are a few spots around PDX I really like -- maybe we can meet & chat at down the road ๐Ÿค” (After meet-n-greet?)

Michael Bunsen (notbot@gmail.com)
2023-01-26 17:13:17

Hi Nick! I am working downtown now most days and would love to get together. Fridays are good for me, including tomorrow! (1/27)

Nick Giampietro (giampiet@pdx.edu)
2023-01-26 22:51:04

Tomorrow won't work for me, but I could meet up next week. Thursdays and Tuesdays are better for me if that happens to work for you too -- those are the days I'm already downtown (on campus for class)

Michael Bunsen (notbot@gmail.com)
2023-01-27 13:41:10

No problem. Next Tuesday and Thursday are both open for me. Thursday after 2pm.

Atul Ingle (ingle@uwalumni.com)
2023-01-23 21:45:35

If there's enough interest I'm happy to host a meet'n'greet at the PSU campus in downtown Portland. We could use a conference room with a projector, and maybe order some coffee and food as well.

๐Ÿ™Œ Nick Giampietro
Michael Bunsen (notbot@gmail.com)
2023-01-23 23:46:00

That would be fantastic @Atul Ingle. I already have been wanting to chat with you about better cameras for tracking small and fast moths at night :)

๐Ÿ‘ Atul Ingle
Nick Giampietro (giampiet@pdx.edu)
2023-01-24 01:56:23

Sounds like fun! I'm in too. ๐Ÿ‘

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Dan Morris (agentmorris@gmail.com)
2023-03-04 15:24:34

How many folks here are in the Seattle area? Asking because in general, it would be good to meet everyone in the area, but specifically, two good times to do that:

1. Every few weeks I join a group of volunteers restoring an area of native habitat along the Cross-Kirkland Corridor: https://ckcvolunteers.weebly.com/ . Their next event is March 18th at 9am, I'm planning to join that one.
2. The Work on Climate Slack also has a Seattle chapter, and there will be an informal meetup on 3/12 at the Bellevue Botanical Garden. Time TBD.

Let me know if you're interested in either!

๐Ÿ‘ Jon Van Oast, Jason Holmberg (Wild Me)
โค๏ธ Michael Bunsen, Ameya Patil, Jason Holmberg (Wild Me)
Eric Cunningham (ejcunningham@gmail.com)
2023-10-26 19:59:57

Hi everyone - Iโ€™m a bit of a lurker in this community and I recently moved to the Seattle area. I wonder if anyone would be interested in a meetup over a coffee/beer/stroll to chat about wildlife sometime? Iโ€™m interested to learn what yโ€™all are working on locally

Dan Morris (agentmorris@gmail.com)
2023-10-26 22:00:37

I live in Bellevue, I'm happy to chat if you're over on the East Side at all, ping me by email at agentmorris@gmail.com . You might also be interested in the Work on Climate monthly meetups in Seattle... I'm super-suburban and almost never come to Seattle, especially at 6pm on a weekday in Capitol Hill, but even I really liked the one I went to. There have also been less-frequent East-Side WoC meetups.

๐Ÿ˜‚ Jon Van Oast
Eric Cunningham (ejcunningham@gmail.com)
2023-10-26 23:53:26

Hi Dan - Sounds like we are (almost) neighbors. I live in Kirkland so I also spend most of my time on the eastside, although I appreciate the tip on the WoC meetup - Iโ€™ll have to check that out.

Dan Morris (agentmorris@gmail.com)
2023-10-27 10:58:29

Yes, let's catch up. I'm in Bellevue but I'm almost in Kirkland. Specifically, I'm around the corner from Dunn Lumber, in the portion of Bridle Trails that one might refer to as "technically in Bridle Trails".

Eric Cunningham (ejcunningham@gmail.com)
2023-10-27 12:31:59

Indeed, not too far. I spend a lot of time in the park itself although I enter from the opposite corner. Iโ€™ll drop you an email!

Jason Holmberg (Wild Me) (holmbergius@gmail.com)
2023-10-27 23:32:17

Hi all, would love to be a part of a meetup sometime. I'm down in Portland.

๐ŸŽ‰ Jon Van Oast
Eric Cunningham (ejcunningham@gmail.com)
2023-10-28 17:10:45

Hi Jason, Iโ€™m overdue to visit some friends in Portland, so Iโ€™ll likely plan a trip sometime in November. Will keep you posted on timing + would love to meet up if youโ€™re around

๐Ÿ˜Ž Jason Holmberg (Wild Me)
Michael Bunsen (notbot@gmail.com)
2023-10-30 01:49:35

Count me in.

๐ŸŽ‰ Eric Cunningham
Eric Cunningham (ejcunningham@gmail.com)
2023-11-02 12:12:19

Iโ€™m currently thinking 11/11-11/12 weekend, any chance yโ€™all are around+available? actually this might not work after all

Michael Bunsen (notbot@gmail.com)
2023-11-02 16:37:53

Late November or after is good for me. But happy to meet spontaneously as well if you find yourself down south Eric

Eric Cunningham (ejcunningham@gmail.com)
2023-11-28 23:20:41

How does the weekend of the 9th look for yโ€™all?

Michael Bunsen (notbot@gmail.com)
2023-11-29 20:03:15

That's open for me!

Eric Cunningham (ejcunningham@gmail.com)
2023-12-05 19:48:06

sigh - sorry to be such a flake but it looks like this weekend is falling through as well, the friend Iโ€™m trying to visit had something come up and is now going out of town ๐Ÿ˜ž

Michael Bunsen (notbot@gmail.com)
2023-12-08 15:12:47

ah no problem. I will be here!

Dan Morris (agentmorris@gmail.com)
2023-11-07 14:44:44

conservation + dogs == the best thing in the universe:

https://www.washington.edu/boundless/conservation-canines/

Does anyone know those folks? It's imperative that I fabricate an excuse to meet those dogs thoughtfully consider potential collaborations with this group.

University of Washington Boundless Campaign
โค๏ธ Jon Van Oast, Jason Holmberg (Wild Me), Michael Bunsen
๐Ÿ˜† Michael Bunsen
Jason Holmberg (Wild Me) (holmbergius@gmail.com)
2023-11-07 14:54:38

You'll need me as an assistant. ๐Ÿ™‚

Eric Cunningham (ejcunningham@gmail.com)
2023-12-13 20:59:26

I have been training my dog to search for cinnamon (as a mental stimulation exercise), perhaps I should switch the scent to something more useful!

Michael Bunsen (notbot@gmail.com)
2023-12-14 12:49:43

I heard it only takes a couple weeks to train a dog to sniff truffles. Oregon State University does a lot of truffle dog training.

Michael Bunsen (notbot@gmail.com)
2023-12-14 12:50:32

Also they have been using dogs to find endangered butterflies! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtun3XvVJE4&ab_channel=KCTS9

YouTube
KCTS 9 (https://www.youtube.com/@KCTS9)
โค๏ธ Eric Cunningham
Eric Cunningham (ejcunningham@gmail.com)
2023-12-14 12:54:26

Amazing! I wonder if these folks at UW are taking applicants ๐Ÿ˜…

Dan Morris (agentmorris@gmail.com)
2024-01-08 20:01:43

Oooh, the thread on the general channel just brought my attention to the fact that NACCB is in Vancouver this year (in June). Another conservation conference where I don't really have to go anywhere? Count me in!

๐Ÿ‘ Michael Bunsen
Jon Van Oast (jon@wildme.org)
2024-01-08 20:05:42

and cvpr is in seattle too. good year for low-travel (for this channel)

๐Ÿ‘ Michael Bunsen
Jon Van Oast (jon@wildme.org)
2024-01-08 20:06:54

(they kinda back right up to each other, now that i am looking at it)

Eric Cunningham (ejcunningham@gmail.com)
2024-02-15 21:21:27

Ok for real this time, any Portland folks available+interested in meeting up on Sunday 2/25?

๐ŸŽ‰ Jon Van Oast
Michael Bunsen (notbot@gmail.com)
2024-02-16 01:12:09

hey @Eric Cunningham that works for me!

๐ŸŽ‰ Eric Cunningham
Taiki Sakai - NOAA Affiliate (taiki.sakai@noaa.gov)
2024-02-18 14:57:53

I just moved to Portland, I might be able to meet up depending on location/time!

๐ŸŽ‰ Jon Van Oast
Eric Cunningham (ejcunningham@gmail.com)
2024-02-20 14:22:31

Iโ€™m open to suggestions on location! Iโ€™ll be driving down and likely will arriving in town sometime mid afternoon (roughly ~3pm)

โœ”๏ธ Jon Van Oast
Jon Van Oast (jon@wildme.org)
2024-02-22 01:17:50

i think i should be available sunday afternoon.

๐Ÿ™Œ Eric Cunningham
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Anastasia Pagรกn (anastasia@wildme.org)
2024-02-22 18:51:17

I've never been, but it looks like a cool spot!

๐Ÿ™Œ Eric Cunningham
Taiki Sakai - NOAA Affiliate (taiki.sakai@noaa.gov)
2024-02-22 23:21:56

I was hoping that I could come and bring my dog, but looks like weather might not be cooperating for the outdoor patio area

Eric Cunningham (ejcunningham@gmail.com)
2024-02-22 23:43:53

@Taiki Sakai - NOAA Affiliate happy to switch to something more dog+weather friendly if you have any suggestions!

Michael Bunsen (notbot@gmail.com)
2024-02-23 03:53:53

The White Owl is in the same area and has a covered patio that allows dogs. At least 5 years ago! I can call and check. https://www.google.com/maps/place/White+Owl+Social+Club/@45.5135365,-122.657886,18z/[โ€ฆ]8m2!3d45.5135441!4d-122.6579239!16s%2Fg%2F1hhw562wx?entry=ttu

Taiki Sakai - NOAA Affiliate (taiki.sakai@noaa.gov)
2024-02-23 11:38:29

I'm pretty new to the area, so not really sure. No need to plan around me + my dog, I can always just leave him at home for a couple hours and he'll be fine!

Eric Cunningham (ejcunningham@gmail.com)
2024-02-23 15:51:40

White Owl sounds good! Those tacos look great

Michael Bunsen (notbot@gmail.com)
2024-02-25 14:26:23

Okay see you there!

Eric Cunningham (ejcunningham@gmail.com)
2024-02-25 17:09:26

Just arrived in pdx, looking forward to meeting yโ€™all!

๐Ÿ‘ Taiki Sakai - NOAA Affiliate
Michael Bunsen (notbot@gmail.com)
2024-02-25 18:47:54

Headed down there now!

๐Ÿ™Œ Eric Cunningham
Taiki Sakai - NOAA Affiliate (taiki.sakai@noaa.gov)
2024-02-25 18:54:18

Just running 10ish minutes late, but I'll see y'all soon (not bringing the doggo)

Eric Cunningham (ejcunningham@gmail.com)
2024-02-25 19:03:53

Just arrived, Iโ€™m outside on the patio, wearing a red rain shell

Anastasia Pagรกn (anastasia@wildme.org)
2024-02-25 19:21:51

Be there in 15ish

๐Ÿ‘ Eric Cunningham
Michael Bunsen (notbot@gmail.com)
2024-02-26 02:06:55

Cheers to a great Pacific NW meet up! Thanks for taking the time those who could make it! And welcome to Portland.

Eric Cunningham (ejcunningham@gmail.com)
2024-02-26 10:51:31

It was awesome to meet all of you! Thanks for coming out to meet, letโ€™s do it again sometime!

Jon Van Oast (jon@wildme.org)
2024-02-26 10:53:30

sorry i missed it, but sounds like it was a great time. hope there are more to come. ๐ŸŒฒ

๐Ÿ‘ Michael Bunsen
Anastasia Pagรกn (anastasia@wildme.org)
2024-02-26 12:17:27

It was great to meet you all!

๐ŸŽ‰ Jon Van Oast, Michael Bunsen
Taiki Sakai - NOAA Affiliate (taiki.sakai@noaa.gov)
2024-02-26 12:29:03

Thanks Eric for organizing, and great to meet you all! Sorry I had to duck out early, wife and I are currently sharing 1 car

๐Ÿ‘ Michael Bunsen
๐ŸŒฒ Michael Bunsen
Anastasia Pagรกn (anastasia@wildme.org)
2024-03-05 17:21:10

I invited @Michael Tsay to the Slack so y'all can continue the conversation with the wildflower micro garden stuff

Michael Bunsen (notbot@gmail.com)
2024-03-05 17:50:12

Oh fantastic, thanks! @Michael Tsay I'd love to know where you get those native seeds by the pound.

๐Ÿ‘‹ Eric Cunningham
Michael Tsay (m.tsay@f5.com)
2024-03-07 14:55:25

Thanks for the invite and setting up the meetup! Here's the link to PNW natives: https://ptlawnseed.com/collections/native-seeds

Pro Time Lawn Seed
Jon Van Oast (jon@wildme.org)
2024-03-07 15:09:29

some friends of mine are involved in this. seems (mostly) on-topic? recommended.
https://scionexchange.wordpress.com/

Agrarian Sharing Network
๐Ÿ˜ฎ Michael Bunsen
๐Ÿ‘ Michael Bunsen
Dan Morris (agentmorris@gmail.com)
2024-03-27 19:14:43

The Eastside subset of the Seattle subset of the region-pnw subset of this Slack might be cutting things pretty thin, but FYI there is a Work on Climate meetup in Redmond tomorrow (Thursday):

https://lu.ma/jn7cd615

I'll be there, and today's WILDLABS event suggested I won't be the only one from this group there, so if you're there, say hello!

lu.ma
๐Ÿ˜‚ Jon Van Oast
Eric Cunningham (ejcunningham@gmail.com)
2024-03-27 21:28:45

Iโ€™ll be there! Westsiders are presumably welcome as well

Michael Bunsen (notbot@gmail.com)
2024-03-27 21:36:42

I canโ€™t make it tomorrow but thanks a lot for sharing here!

Patrick Beukema (patrickb@allenai.org)
2024-05-11 12:23:34

If you are in the Seattle area, this prairie opens once per year and that day is today. (This is not artificial intelligence related).

Patrick Beukema (patrickb@allenai.org)
2024-05-11 12:23:39

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Michael Bunsen (notbot@gmail.com)
2024-07-02 14:15:38

Cross-posting our internship position here as I would love to find someone in the PNW ๐Ÿ™‚

https://aiforconservation.slack.com/archives/CMA73LRPG/p1719944097332049

Michael Bunsen (https://aiforconservation.slack.com/team/U042TP9JJ01)
๐Ÿž Taiki Sakai - NOAA Affiliate, Jason Holmberg (Wild Me)
Eric Cunningham (ejcunningham@gmail.com)
2024-07-23 18:36:20

Iโ€™m heading down to Portland again this weekend - anyone in the area want to meet up for a coffee? I will have my dog with me this time

๐Ÿ‘€ Anastasia Pagรกn
๐ŸŽ‰ Jon Van Oast
โ˜• Michael Tsay
Anastasia Pagรกn (anastasia@wildme.org)
2024-07-23 18:59:31

I was planning on resealing my deck, but I will make time to see doggo.

๐Ÿ™Œ Eric Cunningham
Michael Bunsen (notbot@gmail.com)
2024-07-23 19:03:08

Sweet! I might be adventuring on Saturday. But definitely interested if I am here

๐Ÿ™Œ Eric Cunningham
Eric Cunningham (ejcunningham@gmail.com)
2024-07-24 10:53:12

How about Extracto Coffee Saturday? How early do yโ€™all get up, is 9:30a too early? ๐Ÿ˜…

google.com
Anastasia Pagรกn (anastasia@wildme.org)
2024-07-24 11:49:23

On a Saturday? Yes. ๐Ÿคญ

Eric Cunningham (ejcunningham@gmail.com)
2024-07-24 11:54:56

haha fair enough. How about 10? Unfortunately I probably canโ€™t swing much later as Iโ€™m meeting some other friends for lunch. Could also try for some afternoonish time but would have to play it by ear a little since Iโ€™m still working out my weekend schedule

Anastasia Pagรกn (anastasia@wildme.org)
2024-07-24 11:55:44

I can do 10

๐Ÿ™Œ Eric Cunningham
Eric Cunningham (ejcunningham@gmail.com)
2024-07-24 11:56:16

Great!

Anastasia Pagรกn (anastasia@wildme.org)
2024-07-24 12:32:53

@Michael Tsay Coffee Saturday? โ˜•

๐Ÿ‘:skin_tone_4: Michael Tsay
Taiki Sakai - NOAA Affiliate (taiki.sakai@noaa.gov)
2024-07-24 13:22:53

Dang I'll only be around on Sunday this weekend

Michael Bunsen (notbot@gmail.com)
2024-08-01 16:15:27

Were you all able to meet up? I actually ended up going north to Silver Star mountain in WA

๐Ÿ‘:skin_tone_4: Michael Tsay
Anastasia Pagรกn (anastasia@wildme.org)
2024-08-01 16:18:19

Yeah! It was pretty chill.

Anastasia Pagรกn (anastasia@wildme.org)
2024-12-09 20:45:06

For those of you in Seattle next week on Monday, December 16th, Conservation X Labs' global Nature Tech Team will be meeting up at Fremont Brewing's Urban Beer Garden (1050 N 34th St, Seattle, WA) from 5-7 pm PST. I won't be able to make it, but my teammates invite the Seattle conservation/nature/climate tech community to join.
https://www.fremontbrewing.com/fremont-urban-beer-garden

Fremont Brewing
๐ŸŽ‰ Jon Van Oast, Jason Holmberg (Wild Me), Eric Cunningham, Angela Zhu
Eric Cunningham (ejcunningham@gmail.com)
2024-12-10 13:42:37

Iโ€™ll join you! Looking forward to seeing yโ€™all again ๐Ÿ™‚

๐Ÿ˜Ž Anastasia Pagรกn
Cara Appel (appelc@oregonstate.edu)
2025-03-05 12:39:46

Anyone in the PNW planning to attend? https://www.eventbrite.com/e/stand-up-for-science-2025-seattle-wa-tickets-1260241930539

Eventbrite
Where
305 Harrison Street, Seattle, WA 98109
When
Fri, Mar 7, 2025 at 12:00 PM
โค๏ธ Jason Holmberg (Wild Me)
Matt Weldy (matthewjweldy@gmail.com)
2025-03-06 14:59:34

Dear Collaborators, Cooperators, and Friends,

I hope this finds you well.

I am reaching out to invite you to provide comments in response to Northwest Forest Plan Amendment #64745 in support of long-term, large-scale passive acoustic monitoring, which has been instrumental in advancing wildlife research, AI model development, resolving conservation conflict, and land management across the Northwest Forest Plan Area in the Pacific Northwest.

During the last eight years, the PNW Bioacoustics Lab has established a passive acoustic monitoring network that has collected over 10 million hours of acoustic data from more than 4,000 locations covering an area of over 24 million acres. This dataset is crucial for understanding the distribution and landscape dynamics of northern spotted owls during invasion by barred owls. The datasets also provide unprecedented insights โ€“ for hundreds of vocalizing species โ€“ into biodiversity trends, occurrence patterns for species of concern, the relationship between fire refugia and spotted owl habitat, and informing land and wildlife management decisions.

Now, we have an opportunity for federal, state, and local partnersโ€”as well as the publicโ€”to submit comments highlighting the value of this work. Our work fulfills Northwest Forest Plan effectiveness monitoring requirements, which mandate northern spotted owl population monitoring. The draft amendment for the Northwest Forest Plan is open for comments until March 17, 2025. You can submit your comment about the passive acoustic monitoring program used for northern spotted owl monitoring on that comment page (link provided below). Your input will help reinforce the importance of long-term bioacoustic monitoring and demonstrate its impact on your interests and challenges related to wildlife conservation and monitoring, policy development, and emerging AI-driven technologies.

You can submit your comments here: https://cara.fs2c.usda.gov/Public//CommentInput?Project=64745

Key Points You May Consider in Your Comment:
โ€ข Scientific and Conservation Impact โ€“ How passive acoustic monitoring has improved
biodiversity research, species detection, or conservation efforts.
โ€ข Support for Land and Resource Management โ€“ How this data has benefited habitat
management, climate adaptation, or species monitoring efforts within your agency.
โ€ข AI and Innovation โ€“ The role of advanced machine learning models in processing vast acoustic
datasets and developing scalable, cost-effective solutions for wildlife monitoring.
โ€ข Partnership and Collaboration โ€“ How this program has supported interagency cooperation,
research collaborations, or public engagement in conservation.

Your voice is crucial in ensuring continued investment and support for passive acoustic monitoring as a conservation and land management tool. Please don't hesitate to reach out if you have any questions or need additional information. Also, please feel free to forward this message.

Thank you for your time and support! I greatly appreciate your partnership in advancing this important work.

Matt Weldy (matthewjweldy@gmail.com)
2025-03-06 14:59:57

Comment templates are listed below, organized by relevance to key points:

Scientific and Conservation Value

1. "The Pacific Northwest's rich biodiversity is under increasing pressure from climate change, habitat loss, and human activity. The long-term passive acoustic monitoring project provides invaluable, standardized data that allows researchers to track wildlife populations, assess ecosystem health, and guide data-driven conservation efforts."

2. "Wildlife monitoring has historically been labor-intensive and limited in scope. This project revolutionizes how we study species over large landscapes, enabling researchers to detect trends that would otherwise go unnoticed. These data are essential for informing biodiversity conservation strategies, and endangered species recovery plans."

3. "Acoustic monitoring provides a non-invasive way to study wildlife populations at a scale that would be impossible using traditional field methods. This project is a game-changer for understanding species distribution, migration patterns, and the impact of environmental changes on wildlife."

Climate Change and Ecosystem Health

4. "As climate change alters ecosystems, long-term datasets like those generated by this project become even more critical. They provide a unique opportunity to track shifts in species distributions and seasonal behaviors, helping scientists and land managers develop adaptive management strategies."

5. "Analyzing years of acoustic data helps detect early warning signs of ecological change. For example, shifts in bird and amphibian vocalizations may indicate changing environmental conditions before they become obvious through other means."

Technology and Innovation

6. "This project is at the forefront of applied artificial intelligence and big data analytics in wildlife research. The integration of AI-based auto-identification models significantly enhances our ability to process millions of hours of recordings efficiently, making large-scale biodiversity monitoring more effective than ever before."

7. "The research team has developed cutting-edge convolutional neural networks for species identification, setting a new standard for bioacoustics research. These technological advancements have broad applications beyond wildlife monitoring, including environmental compliance, eco-tourism, and public engagement in citizen science initiatives."

Partnerships and Public Engagement

8. "This project is a model for successful collaboration between federal agencies, state partners, researchers, and the public. The long-term commitment to data collection benefits scientists, land managers, policymakers, and communities invested in protecting natural resources."

9. "The scale and longevity of this project provide a unique opportunity for cross-sector collaboration, offering valuable insights for wildlife agencies, conservation groups, and academic institutions alike. Supporting this initiative means investing in the future of biodiversity monitoring and conservation."

Enhancing Land and Wildlife Management

10. "Passive acoustic monitoring provides private landowners, USFS, BLM, and NPS with an innovative, non-invasive tool for tracking wildlife populations across vast and remote landscapes. This long-term dataset helps federal land managers assess ecosystem health, detect changes in species distributions, and inform science-based management decisions."

11. "With over 24 million acres of monitoring coverage, this project delivers high-resolution data on biodiversity trends across public lands for hundreds of vocalizing species. This information is critical for BLM's multiple-use mandate and NPS's mission to conserve natural resources while providing for public enjoyment."

Informing Policy and Conservation Planning

12. "BLM and NPS are tasked with managing millions of acres of public land, including critical habitats for threatened and endangered species. This project provides long-term, landscape-scale acoustic data that can guide conservation strategies, improve habitat management, and support compliance with federal policies such as the Endangered Species Act and the Migratory Bird Treaty Act."

13. "The ability to monitor species occurrence, abundance, and behavioral changes over time allows agencies to assess the effectiveness of land management policies, restoration efforts, and climate adaptation strategies. This dataset helps ensure that federal lands remain ecologically resilient in the face of environmental change."

Climate Change and Ecosystem Resilience

14. "Climate change is altering species distributions and ecosystem dynamics across public lands. This project enables BLM and NPS to track how wildlife is responding to shifting environmental conditions, providing early indicators of ecological change and helping land managers develop adaptive strategies."

15. "By leveraging acoustic monitoring, federal land managers gain an unprecedented ability to detect seasonal shifts in species activity, changes in migratory patterns, and disruptions to soundscapes that could signal broader ecological transformations."

Collaboration for Data-Driven Decision Making

16. "Long-term, large-scale datasets like this are invaluable for federal agencies seeking science-driven solutions for managing public lands. Strengthening collaboration between research institutions, BLM, and NPS will ensure that cutting-edge acoustic monitoring technologies directly support land stewardship and wildlife conservation goals."

17. "Passive acoustic monitoring provides a scalable and cost-effective way for BLM and NPS to enhance existing wildlife surveys. Integrating these data with other monitoring effortsโ€”such as remote sensing and on-the-ground surveysโ€”can create a more comprehensive understanding of ecosystem health."

Operational and Budgetary Efficiency

18. "Passive acoustic monitoring reduces the need for resource-intensive field surveys while enabling continuous, year-round wildlife data collection. By investing in this technology, BLM and NPS can improve efficiency in species monitoring, compliance assessments, and public land management."

19. "The combination of AI-driven bioacoustics and long-term monitoring reduces field personnel costs while increasing the scale of biodiversity assessments. Supporting this initiative allows federal agencies to leverage cutting-edge technology to maximize conservation outcomes within budget constraints."

Chris Cosma (chris.cosma@consbio.org)
2025-03-21 14:46:07

This may be of interest to some of you: May 27 - 30: Conference for Advancing Participatory Sciences, in person in Portland, OR

Association for Advancing Participatory Sciences
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Dan Morris (agentmorris@gmail.com)
2025-07-16 12:03:21

If anyone in the Seattle area wants to get your hands dirty (literally) at a biodiversity-related volunteering event, I'll be at this event on Saturday (7/19), restoring salmon habitat in Bothell:

https://lu.ma/kwp5tdwh

It's the only event related to PNW Climate Week I'm attending, so hopefully also a good chance to talk to other (non-biodiversity-focused) people about their climate work.

lu.ma
๐ŸŽ‰ Jon Van Oast, Anastasia Pagรกn, Jason Holmberg (Wild Me), Michael Bunsen, Nicole Lopez, Angela Zhu
Anastasia Pagรกn (anastasia@wildme.org)
2025-10-01 12:50:03

If you're in Portland, the Friends of Tryon Creek is hosting an event to train folks on surveying freshwater mussels to promote salmon recovery on October 11th.
https://www.tryonfriends.org/calendar/mussel-training

Friends of Tryon Creek
๐Ÿ’ช Atul Ingle, Jason Holmberg (Wild Me), Angela Zhu
๐ŸŽ‰ Jon Van Oast, Jason Holmberg (Wild Me)
Michael Bunsen (notbot@gmail.com)
2025-10-05 22:08:58

Awesome thanks! I will try to join!

๐Ÿฆช Anastasia Pagรกn
Matt Ziegler (mattzig@cs.washington.edu)
2025-10-09 18:02:00

Seattle folks! I have an event coming up as a part of One Ocean Week in Seattle: "Designing Equitable Ocean Technologies." Come by if you're interested! I think it will be an interesting crowd with a lot of experience. Wednesday October 22 10am, at 9Zero Climate Hub downtown

Abstract: New technology developments promise to help us sustainably manage our oceans, like increasingly sophisticated modeling, various forms of electronic fisheries monitoring, algorithm-based conservation planning tools, and technologies for supply chain traceability. As we design these technologies for ocean management, how can we ensure that they are fair and equitable for all? In this session, we will present some examples of marine technology projects as case studies to discuss important equity considerations, including: who has decision-making power, who is excluded, who might benefit from model biases, and who takes on burdens and risks?

https://luma.com/5r9f1rt8

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๐Ÿ™Œ Boe Zhou, Michael Bunsen
Angela Zhu (azhu@umass.edu)
2025-10-13 16:32:57

Hey Y'all! I just moved to Corvallis, Oregon (from Northern California and Amherst, MA). Are there other Oregon locals?

little about me: I'm starting a PhD in computational sustainability advised by Rebecca Hutchinson at OSU. Recently I graduated from UMass Amherst where I worked on species distribution models with profs Grant Van Horn and Subhransu Maji. I'm intersted in building species distribution models with citizen science data and more generally machine learning for ecology.

๐Ÿ‘‹ Andy Huynh, Michael Bunsen, Jason Holmberg (Wild Me)
Chris Cosma (chris.cosma@consbio.org)
2025-10-13 16:44:44

Hi Angela, I work for the Conservation Biology Institute, which is based in Corvallis. I go there sometimes but I live in Spokane, WA. Iโ€™m a pollinator conservation ecologist, and Iโ€™ve done some work producing SDMS for plants and insects in CA. My work also touches on leveraging community science data. Nice to meet you, and welcome to Oregon!

๐Ÿ˜ฎ Angela Zhu
Cara Appel (appelc@oregonstate.edu)
2025-10-14 13:00:37

Hello! I'm finishing up my PhD at OSU working on applying computer vision methods to wildlife research (via bioacoustics and camera traps). There is a pretty good bioacoustics/ML community among grad students. Nice to meet you!

โค๏ธ Angela Zhu, Jason Holmberg (Wild Me)
Michael Bunsen (notbot@gmail.com)
2025-10-14 20:35:55

Hello and welcome! I am in Portland, but semi-raised in Corvallis and on the OSU campus. I work on software and data management for applied ML. Mostly for moth & insect monitoring applications.

โค๏ธ Angela Zhu, Jason Holmberg (Wild Me)
Michael Bunsen (notbot@gmail.com)
2025-10-14 20:37:58

@Cara Appel that's great to hear there is a good bioacoustics & ML community down there. Most of the researchers I work with, I do so remotely. I'm definitely interested in a regional, in-person meetup on the topic of automated monitoring at some point.

โค๏ธ Angela Zhu, Jason Holmberg (Wild Me)
Michael Bunsen (notbot@gmail.com)
2025-10-14 20:40:46

I will be in Corvallis next weekend for the annual Northwest Lepidopterists Workshop at Cordley Hall. It's free!
https://osac.oregonstate.edu/events/46th-annual-pacific-northwest-lepidopterists-workshop

osac.oregonstate.edu
๐Ÿ˜ฎ Angela Zhu
Chris Cosma (chris.cosma@consbio.org)
2025-10-15 12:51:20

Darn, Iโ€™ll be in Seattle that weekend!

Angela Zhu (azhu@umass.edu)
2025-10-15 13:02:27

omg!! @Cara Appel Natalie from my lab works at that lab and maybe works with you? I was gonna reach out to you and see if you had time to chat or smtg, it seems like we've done similar work

Angela Zhu (azhu@umass.edu)
2025-10-15 13:04:24

woah ! @Michael Bunsen I'd love to meet up while you're here ๐Ÿ˜„ it would be nice to hear about the cool spots around here. and that is an ology I've never heard of, AWESOME!!

Jason Holmberg (Wild Me) (holmbergius@gmail.com)
2025-10-15 13:23:13

Hi @Angela Zhu I live in Portland and run the Wild Me lab (wildme.org) of Conservation X Labs. We mostly work on AI for individual animal re-ID, but we also train AI for wildlife aerial surveys and remote sensing of forestry. Welcome to the PNW!

๐Ÿ˜ฎ Angela Zhu
Nina Ferrari (ninaferrari94@gmail.com)
2025-11-04 13:31:59

Hi @Angela Zhu! We met last week when I was down. I recently moved out of Corvallis (and up to Portland), but OSU has an awesome ML and Bioacoustics Reading Group (the main focus these days s bioacoustics, but we love all ML and AI applications). Let me know if you're interested in being a part of it!

Also, @Jason Holmberg (Wild Me) cool to know there is another AI - conservation person in Portland! I recently moved back after being away for grad school. Would be cool to meet up and chat!

โค๏ธ Angela Zhu
๐Ÿ‘ Michael Bunsen
Keenan Johnson (keenan.johnson@gmail.com)
2025-12-03 16:23:23

Hello Seattle Friends! I'm here and always looking to connect with other folks doing interesting work.

Keenan Johnson (keenan.johnson@gmail.com)
2025-12-03 16:31:52

I've recently been working with the Seattle Aquarium's kelp monitoring ROV project which is very interesting and local.

๐Ÿ‘‹ Boe Zhou, Andy Huynh, Chris Cosma, Eric Cunningham, Anastasia Pagรกn, Angela Zhu
Angela Zhu (azhu@umass.edu)
2025-12-08 18:33:10

I'm not in the seattle area I'm in corvallis, OR. But the seattle aquarium is awesome!

๐Ÿ™Œ Keenan Johnson
Keenan Johnson (keenan.johnson@gmail.com)
2025-12-07 17:30:31

If local folks are ever interested in a meetup, I'd be happy to organize something in Seattle?

๐Ÿ‘ Michael Bunsen, Boe Zhou
Eric Cunningham (ejcunningham@gmail.com)
2025-12-08 20:31:51

Iโ€™m always up for a conservation meetup!

Keenan Johnson (keenan.johnson@gmail.com)
2025-12-08 20:33:27

Are you in the Seattle area @Eric Cunningham?

Eric Cunningham (ejcunningham@gmail.com)
2025-12-08 20:35:22

Yup, I am in Kirkland

Anna Vallery (annacvallery@gmail.com)
2025-12-12 19:33:00

Count me in as well! I am in Columbia City!

Keenan Johnson (keenan.johnson@gmail.com)
2025-12-12 19:33:32

Oh excellent. I'm gladI'm in the Fremont area, but can be flexible on location

Keenan Johnson (keenan.johnson@gmail.com)
2025-12-12 19:35:17

Any days in the next week work well for people? Do weekends or weeknights work best?

Anna Vallery (annacvallery@gmail.com)
2025-12-12 19:36:31

Ah, I am heading out of town for the holidays starting Monday (doing field work over the holidays). I'll be back January 5th and am eager to meet up then!

Keenan Johnson (keenan.johnson@gmail.com)
2025-12-12 19:38:24

What about sunday sometime? Is that too last minute for folks?

Anna Vallery (annacvallery@gmail.com)
2025-12-12 19:39:18

Haha I am doing the Christmas Bird Count that day! But I am happy to miss this one and catch up with this group for the next one!

Eric Cunningham (ejcunningham@gmail.com)
2025-12-12 21:16:41

I could probably meet up on Sunday (this or some future weekend). Unfortunately getting over the bridge on a weeknight will be a bit tough for me for a while though.

Michael Bunsen (notbot@gmail.com)
2026-01-02 12:39:07

Happy New Year yโ€™all!

๐ŸŽ‰ Anastasia Pagรกn
Dan Morris (agentmorris@gmail.com)
2026-01-02 18:56:53

Of course everyone is welcome to meet Eric and I (and our dogs) at obscenely-early-o-clock at Marymoor Park in Redmond almost any day. There is lots of nature to see at that time, and we are out there most days (or can be). Marymoor Park is also a great spot to meet during normal daytime hours, but in the afternoon it's only the happiest place in the universe, not so much to see wrt wildlife once hundreds of dogs arrive.

โž• Eric Cunningham
๐Ÿ™ƒ Michael Bunsen
Dan Morris (agentmorris@gmail.com)
2026-01-14 17:24:40

I am planning to attend the OR TWS chapter meeting in February (in Seaside)... is anyone else here attending? I'm also 75% likely to attend the WA/BC TWC chapter meeting in April (in Wenatchee).

Robert Long (Robert.Long@zoo.org)
2026-01-16 12:54:46

Itโ€™s looking likely Iโ€™ll be attending--still working out details. Will you be presenting?

Dan Morris (agentmorris@gmail.com)
2026-01-16 18:56:11

I am definitely presenting at the OR meeting, sort of a general overview of "AI for ecology" talk, but really an encouragement for everyone to join vibe coding parties and start playing with LLMs. I submitted a very similar abstract to the WA/BC meeting, so I'll present if it's accepted. I might even try to get my act together to find time for an informal in-person vibe coding party at the WA/BC meeting (I'm not going to get my act together in time for that at the OR meeting).

Anna Vallery (annacvallery@gmail.com)
2026-01-20 12:40:05

I am also 75% likely to attend the TWS meeting in Wenatchee! Potentially talking about AI work, but I haven't submitted an abstract just yet!

Dan Morris (agentmorris@gmail.com)
2026-01-20 13:46:59

My abstract was accepted to WATWS, so yes, I'll be there. If anyone else is submitting an AI-related abstract, we could do each other a mutual favor by adding up to critical mass to make a session... if not an AI session, at least a methodology-focused session. Right now basically all the sessions are organized around particular taxa. I don't mind being in a random session about a fish I've never heard of, but it's suboptimal.

โค๏ธ Anna Vallery, Jason Holmberg (Wild Me)
๐Ÿ˜… Michael Bunsen, Jason Holmberg (Wild Me)
Anna Vallery (annacvallery@gmail.com)
2026-01-20 14:23:06

Agree! I will absolutely let you know if/when I submit!

๐Ÿ‘ Dan Morris
Michael Bunsen (notbot@gmail.com)
2026-02-02 19:57:02

Hey cool! I am tempted to submit an abstract and form an AI session for WATWS.

Michael Bunsen (notbot@gmail.com)
2026-02-02 19:58:15

I am not registered for the Seaside conference but that's an easy drive for me. I would love to help coordinate an extracurricular lunch or dinner.

Jason Holmberg (Wild Me) (holmbergius@gmail.com)
2026-01-14 17:26:48

Good pizza? A cold rocky coast? Count me in!

๐Ÿ‘ Dan Morris, Michael Bunsen
๐Ÿ• Jon Van Oast, Michael Bunsen
Dan Morris (agentmorris@gmail.com)
2026-01-14 17:29:25

I'm giving a talk that is nominally a broad intro to AI stuff for ecologists, but like most everything I do these days, is really just encouragement to get people to go to vibe coding parties and/or otherwise start doing things with LLMs beyond the chat interface.

๐Ÿ˜Ž Jason Holmberg (Wild Me)
Jason Holmberg (Wild Me) (holmbergius@gmail.com)
2026-01-14 17:35:16

#This could have been an email project hackathon 15-minute-vibe-coding session.

Dan Morris (agentmorris@gmail.com)
2026-01-14 17:39:33

I would love to vibe-code in real time as a demo during my talk, but it's killing me that this is a community that still has speakers submit .pptx files that are placed on a communal laptop, which basically rules out demos. Maybe I'll find a way to shake some tradition loose.

Jason Holmberg (Wild Me) (holmbergius@gmail.com)
2026-01-14 17:40:34

I mean, we could have a whole Laurel and Hardy vibe coding routine on stage.

Michael Bunsen (notbot@gmail.com)
2026-02-12 14:44:55

Can you embed an IDE in a power point file yet? ๐Ÿ™ƒ

Jason Holmberg (Wild Me) (holmbergius@gmail.com)
2026-02-12 15:35:00

That would break The Matrix.

๐Ÿคฃ Michael Bunsen
Jason Holmberg (Wild Me) (holmbergius@gmail.com)
2026-02-12 15:35:55

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Michael Bunsen (notbot@gmail.com)
2026-02-23 02:00:17

@Jason Holmberg (Wild Me) will you be in Seaside this week?

Cara Appel (appelc@oregonstate.edu)
2026-01-14 17:33:17

Bummer, this will be the first year in a while I won't be attending ORTWS. Glad to hear you will be giving a talk though, @Dan Morris! I may encourage some of my former colleagues to connect with you there about camera trap/AI work.

Dan Morris (agentmorris@gmail.com)
2026-02-20 14:07:17

Re: ORTWS... if anyone wants to grab lunch Monday or Tuesday, or happens to be a runner and wants to explore the area on a morning run Mon/Tues/Wed, LMK.

Nina Ferrari (ninaferrari94@gmail.com)
2026-02-20 14:10:56

I'd be interested in meeting up for lunch and chatting AI/computer vision/bioacoautics!

Dan Morris (agentmorris@gmail.com)
2026-02-20 16:11:59

Let's declare 11:30am on Tuesday to be an unofficial AI for Conservation lunch. Technically there are board meetings happening at that time, but that gives us plenty of time to get lunch, chat, and get back for 1pm sessions. Invite anyone you meet at the conference who seems interested in AI!

Meeting spot TBD, I'll ping this chat on Monday when I see what the obvious meeting spots look like.

๐Ÿ‘ Nina Ferrari
Michael Bunsen (notbot@gmail.com)
2026-02-20 18:57:08

Excellent! Thanks for declaring! That should work for me. And I am in for a run.

Dan Morris (agentmorris@gmail.com)
2026-02-20 20:27:13

Re: running... Monday doesn't start until 10am (also I mostly never go to plenaries, and it's the plenaries that start at 10am), so we could have a slightly later start than we could on Tuesday. How about an 8am run on Monday, meeting location TBD? Michael, you're local, right? Are you staying in Seaside, or driving in?

Michael Bunsen (notbot@gmail.com)
2026-02-23 01:20:18

@Dan Morris I am in Portland. I thinking I will come in Tuesday morning in time for lunch and then stay until Wednesday. Perhaps a sunset run on Tuesday? Or early Wednesday โ€” depending on how early that would need to be!

Dan Morris (agentmorris@gmail.com)
2026-02-23 16:38:00

Let's declare the meeting spot for tomorrow (Tuesday) lunch at 11:30am to be the registration desk.

๐Ÿ‘ Nina Ferrari
Michael Bunsen (notbot@gmail.com)
2026-02-24 12:27:29

This was place was recommended by my sister https://share.google/HcMwbS6664Xgk7xZG

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Michael Bunsen (notbot@gmail.com)
2026-02-24 18:38:25

Thanks to everyone who joined the bagel lunch! I would love to continue the conversation on skepticism around AI and how we can use it with integrity, and build more transparency into tools & processes.

Here is a link to the open-source data management & software toolset I work on with Mila & the Montreal Insectarium: https://www.insectai.org/ (warning that the demo video and docs need a major update!)

insectai.org
Nina Ferrari (ninaferrari94@gmail.com)
2026-02-25 12:34:05

Yes, thanks @Dan Morris for organizing and being game for an interesting and nuanced convo on LLMs and ecology!

Dan Morris (agentmorris@gmail.com)
2026-02-25 16:32:10

I enjoyed it as well! I look forward to having bagels with everyone at ORTWS 2027. ๐Ÿ™‚ And if anyone is coming up to WA for the WA meeting in April, or considering the national TWS meeting, let's have bagels + AI talk there too.

Atul Ingle (ingle@uwalumni.com)
2026-02-26 19:13:49

A free compute resource for those of you in Oregon:
https://orca.pdx.edu/

Orca Accelerator
๐Ÿ‘€ Nina Ferrari, Jason Holmberg (Wild Me), Ben Weinstein, Michael Bunsen
๐Ÿ˜Ž Jon Van Oast, Jason Holmberg (Wild Me), Bernie Boscoe
slackbot
2026-03-03 16:03:46

@Ronan Wallace joined #region-pnw. Theyโ€™re also new to AI for Conservation.

Dan Morris (agentmorris@gmail.com)
2026-03-15 11:41:23

Will anyone be at WA TWS (4/7-4/9)? I'm coming in Tuesday morning and staying Tues/Wed nights.

Michael Bunsen (notbot@gmail.com)
2026-04-01 10:43:48

I'll be nearby! In Lyle, WA looking for orange tip butterflies and other spring species. I bet you will see some nice wildflowers as well.

Michael Bunsen (notbot@gmail.com)
2026-05-09 10:44:00

This is a remote job opportunity, but it would be fantastic if anyone in the PNW or Pacific Time Zone is interested!

We are hiring a full-stack developer to work on our Antenna platform - a collaborative ML and ops tool for data from insect cameras! Mila is based in Montreal, but I am in Oregon.

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/michaelbunsen_job-opportunity-to-work-with-me-building-ugcPost-7458885151784218624-HLa6

insectai.org
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